No. But encouraging Sebastian to put a table knife through one of Kikimora's eyes if she bothers him again isn't going to help him graduate either.
I think it matters that he feels valued. That he feels that people believe him -- not just me.
He shakes his head, the corner of his mouth compressing with genuine unhappiness. Malcolm may not know that his cruel dismissals of Sebastian matter. Malcolm may think that the two of them are fine because Sebastian has the self-control to speak to him calmly. But without exposing Sebastian's vulnerabilities to someone who's already used those vulnerabilities against him as cruelly as possible, Hakkai doesn't know how to make it clear to Malcolm that he's done harm.
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I value him, too. But outside the barge there are provocations and idiots with authority too, and you still generally should be selective about eye-stabbing.
Does he have any kind of powers that could
harmlessly, humiliatingly, pick her up and roll her out of his vicinity like an unruly armadillo
because if Malcolm doesn't want that to happen he can just get her to stop
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No, his powers are much more like mine. He's strong, fast, physically very dangerous and resistant to harm....
He'd have to lay hands on her to roll her around. She'd use that as an excuse for violence and Malcolm would use it as an excuse to blame him for provoking her.
He slumps. It's possible that it's unfair to Malcolm to believe that; he hadn't tried to argue that Sebastian had provoked today's incident by asking Kikimora not to steal meat from the kitchens while taunting the employees who ask her to stop. But he'd been so focused on the idea that Sebastian must have been guilty last time.
The thing is, you see, he hasn't stabbed anyone. He has grabbed Kikimora by the wrist a few times and physically thrown her out of the dining hall once. He's been restraining himself.
He's trying, and if his trying gets him humiliated and condescended to by the Warden whose inmate is harassing him, I'm afraid he's going to change tactics.
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Well, if it's not working, then he should change tactics. We just have to give him better new tactics to try.
When your own skills aren't suited to resolving a situation, you find someone else who does have the right skills. If neither of you trusts Malcolm to respond to the situation productively when notified, then Sebastian should notify me instead, and I'll float her away.
If you think 'asking for help' is still too advanced for him, you could suggest he make a bargain with me about it. Exercises in taking the initiative in strictly tactical cooperation. And cooperation is just getting people to do what you want. If you think about it, it's just manipulation with fewer steps.
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Asking for help is hard for him. But I think he'd be very open to it in this situation. I told him to call Malcolm and not let Kikimora goad him, and he did that this time.
I'm considering speaking with Kikimora directly to help resolve the situation, to be honest.
He stares at the communicator for a long moment, tucking himself down against Jedao's shoulder, and then adds, long fingers flying over the keyboard:
I'm angry that Malcolm won't do his job and doesn't care. He can be worked around, but I'm still angry.
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Jedao leans his head on top of Hakkai's head, and he pauses for a little while before his own reply comes.
I think he does care, and is trying to do his job as he sees it. But that doesn't make it any less infuriating that his priorities are different and his choices have been harmful. You should be able to rely on him, and whether your fears about what he would do are true or not, the fact is that he's failed to earn your trust or allay those fears.
It sucks. I'm sorry.
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He certainly doesn't care about Sebastian. Kikimora, yes.
He's been tolerably clear about his opinions on Sebastian. He might think that none of those opinions count as ill will, but that's only because he's decided they're all objective facts.
Hakkai makes a grumbling noise deep in his throat, letting Jedao's head rest on his own, and leans into it despite his stiff-necked annoyance.
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Jedao pauses for a few moments, fingers still as he tries to phrase it right.
I think his bias is distorting his understanding of what's really happened, or could have happened. And that's difficult for anyone to break out of, unless they're willing to listen to outside voices.
And he generally isn't. That's on him.
There's more Jedao could say, but not without saying things that he feels Malcolm told him in confidence, rather than his own observations.
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I don't even know for certain that it's bias. I've asked him twice now why he thinks Kikimora wasn't deliberately provoking Sebastian last time, and explained why I think she was. Both times he told me that I was asking in bad faith, so he wouldn't tell me his reasons.
But it could be that he has better reasons.
He doubts it. If Malcolm had a good reason, Hakkai suspects he'd have given it: but maybe he genuinely assumed Hakkai's bad faith from the fact that he didn't agree without evidence.
With a sigh, he shakes his head, and types swiftly.
I don't think you and I can solve him between us.
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Hakkai nods, leaving the communicator to balance precariously on his knee as he turns to kiss Jedao, careful and sweet. He cups Jedao's cheek in his palm, every gesture I love you too.
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I think it matters that he feels valued. That he feels that people believe him -- not just me.
He shakes his head, the corner of his mouth compressing with genuine unhappiness. Malcolm may not know that his cruel dismissals of Sebastian matter. Malcolm may think that the two of them are fine because Sebastian has the self-control to speak to him calmly. But without exposing Sebastian's vulnerabilities to someone who's already used those vulnerabilities against him as cruelly as possible, Hakkai doesn't know how to make it clear to Malcolm that he's done harm.
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Does he have any kind of powers that could
harmlessly, humiliatingly, pick her up and roll her out of his vicinity like an unruly armadillo
because if Malcolm doesn't want that to happen he can just get her to stop
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No, his powers are much more like mine. He's strong, fast, physically very dangerous and resistant to harm....
He'd have to lay hands on her to roll her around. She'd use that as an excuse for violence and Malcolm would use it as an excuse to blame him for provoking her.
He slumps. It's possible that it's unfair to Malcolm to believe that; he hadn't tried to argue that Sebastian had provoked today's incident by asking Kikimora not to steal meat from the kitchens while taunting the employees who ask her to stop. But he'd been so focused on the idea that Sebastian must have been guilty last time.
The thing is, you see, he hasn't stabbed anyone. He has grabbed Kikimora by the wrist a few times and physically thrown her out of the dining hall once. He's been restraining himself.
He's trying, and if his trying gets him humiliated and condescended to by the Warden whose inmate is harassing him, I'm afraid he's going to change tactics.
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When your own skills aren't suited to resolving a situation, you find someone else who does have the right skills. If neither of you trusts Malcolm to respond to the situation productively when notified, then Sebastian should notify me instead, and I'll float her away.
If you think 'asking for help' is still too advanced for him, you could suggest he make a bargain with me about it. Exercises in taking the initiative in strictly tactical cooperation. And cooperation is just getting people to do what you want. If you think about it, it's just manipulation with fewer steps.
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I'm considering speaking with Kikimora directly to help resolve the situation, to be honest.
He stares at the communicator for a long moment, tucking himself down against Jedao's shoulder, and then adds, long fingers flying over the keyboard:
I'm angry that Malcolm won't do his job and doesn't care. He can be worked around, but I'm still angry.
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I think he does care, and is trying to do his job as he sees it. But that doesn't make it any less infuriating that his priorities are different and his choices have been harmful. You should be able to rely on him, and whether your fears about what he would do are true or not, the fact is that he's failed to earn your trust or allay those fears.
It sucks. I'm sorry.
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He's been tolerably clear about his opinions on Sebastian. He might think that none of those opinions count as ill will, but that's only because he's decided they're all objective facts.
Hakkai makes a grumbling noise deep in his throat, letting Jedao's head rest on his own, and leans into it despite his stiff-necked annoyance.
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I think he cares about...resolving the situation fairly. But not about Sebastian, no. And I don't think he's competent enough to overcome his bias.
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Fair is not the same as "equal blame." I don't know if that's bias or careless thinking.
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Jedao pauses for a few moments, fingers still as he tries to phrase it right.
I think his bias is distorting his understanding of what's really happened, or could have happened. And that's difficult for anyone to break out of, unless they're willing to listen to outside voices.
And he generally isn't. That's on him.
There's more Jedao could say, but not without saying things that he feels Malcolm told him in confidence, rather than his own observations.
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But it could be that he has better reasons.
He doubts it. If Malcolm had a good reason, Hakkai suspects he'd have given it: but maybe he genuinely assumed Hakkai's bad faith from the fact that he didn't agree without evidence.
With a sigh, he shakes his head, and types swiftly.
I don't think you and I can solve him between us.
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That's a promise.
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